It’s very difficult what you’re doing, and it’s very isolating, because not many people at all understand your experience. There’s the internet, and then there’s your mom. I even don’t want to listen to my mom’s opinion. HO-YEON: Yeah, and I never care about that many people’s opinions of my life. Then when I met you at SAG Awards, you know me, and that was like, “Wow.” Everything that I’m saying or where I’m going, it’s like people starting to. I was a little child in Korea, and “Grey’s Anatomy” was a huge thing in Korea because of you, and you’re icon of us. HO-YEON: And then people recognize me, and even you. I was like, “OK, I’m going to be an actor,” and then I did an audition and then I got it. Things go so quick for me, because it was just my first project. HO-YEON: I’m trying, but all I can do is just keep trying not to overthink this responsibility, but also care about this responsibility - like, trying to make the balance. So while I want to thank you for that, because I do, I also want to relieve you of any kind of - it’s impossible to relieve you of the pressure - but I want to somehow relieve you of the pressure for that. I do think the change and the opening and the growth is coming. You are, in the image-making, a very important part for Asian Americans. So I understand that question that you have. OH: I’m only talking four years ago, because I’ve had this question, I think, my entire career, which is “How much do you think things have changed for Asian Americans?” I only say to maybe 2019 that I feel for us, as Asian Americans, things have changed. And I don’t think I would’ve seen that four years ago. I don’t know how many times I have driven on Sunset Boulevard - like, a billion. You are on the side of a building - like, “Oh, there’s my girl.” But then also I will say there were probably two more billboards where there is another Asian model and another model, I think maybe she’s mixed race. On Sunset Boulevard, it’s like you’re driving down American capitalism, and you see what Hollywood or North American capitalism is showing what we should follow, what we should buy. Because it is a large responsibility that feels familiar to me. OH: I thought a lot about that, too, for you, and I just want to take that off of you. Cristina Yang on “Grey’s Anatomy,” and the importance of taking care of yourself - especially as Ho-yeon navigates the global fandom for the heroic defector Kang Sae-byeok from “Squid Game.” With “Killing Eve,” another TV series that has captivated viewers around the world, ending after four seasons, Oh talks about what it felt like to say goodbye to her spy character. In between, they discuss how the representation of Asian people has changed in popular culture since Oh portrayed Dr. Or, as Oh puts it to Ho-yeon, who got her start as a model: “Immediately we’re so close immediately, you sat on my lap.” By the end of their conversation, the two are making dinner plans so they can continue talking off camera. They’d gone viral on the internet in February, when Oh congratulated Ho-yeon for winning best performance by a female actor at the SAG Awards, posing for selfies with the cast of Netflix’s “Squid Game.” But this feels more intimate. Sandra Oh (“Killing Eve,” “The Chair”) and Jung Ho-yeon (“Squid Game”) bond quickly at our photo shoot for Variety‘s “ Actors on Actors” presented by Apple TV+.
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